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posted by [personal profile] ptc24 at 09:46pm on 13/05/2009
Having forked out the dosh for a paid DW account, I think it's time to put it to good use. Thus I bring you a poll:


Memorable Monarchs of England: (I'll illustrate this using French monarchs to avoid biasing things)

1) A monarch is memorable if you can reliably link their name and number to some fact, epithet, story, whatever. Even the tiniest little thing counts, with a few exceptions. So, were you to say "Louis XIV, he was the Sun King, but I know nothing else about him", he would be memorable by that definition.

2) You have to be sure of the number. Be honest. If you would say "Louis the Mumbelth? XV? XVI? XVII? Anyway, he got his head chopped off, didn't he?", then you're not allowed to count him as memorable, even if seeing him in the order of succession reminds you that he was XVI.

3) Things that don't count: who they succeeded, or were succeeded by. Knowing roughly which part of history they were in. Appearing in the title of a book/film/play. If you want to say that they are memorable because of Shakespeare, you have to know a line of the play, or something about the plot, and know for sure which monarch it was about, including the number. In short, you have to know something memorable about them, not their circumstances.

Note I haven't included pre-Norman Conquest monarchs, so don't complain about a lack of Alfred, and don't get clever about which ones were of England and which were of the UK.

Anyway, without further ado,

Poll #308 Memorable Kings and Queens of England
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 16


Which of the following monarchs, by the above definition, are memorable to you?

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William I
14 (87.5%)

William II
5 (31.2%)

Henry I
0 (0.0%)

Stephen
7 (43.8%)

Henry II
4 (25.0%)

Richard I
11 (68.8%)

John
12 (75.0%)

Henry III
2 (12.5%)

Edward I
5 (31.2%)

Edward II
5 (31.2%)

Edward III
3 (18.8%)

Richard II
4 (25.0%)

Henry IV
6 (37.5%)

Henry V
9 (56.2%)

Henry VI
5 (31.2%)

Edward IV
3 (18.8%)

Edward V
3 (18.8%)

Richard III
12 (75.0%)

Henry VII
9 (56.2%)

Henry VIII
14 (87.5%)

Edward VI
5 (31.2%)

Mary I
13 (81.2%)

Elizabeth I
15 (93.8%)

James I
10 (62.5%)

Charles I
14 (87.5%)

Charles II
11 (68.8%)

James II
5 (31.2%)

William III
8 (50.0%)

Mary II
6 (37.5%)

Anne
7 (43.8%)

George I
6 (37.5%)

George II
3 (18.8%)

George III
12 (75.0%)

George IV
3 (18.8%)

William IV
1 (6.2%)

Victoria
15 (93.8%)

George V
3 (18.8%)

Edward VIII
12 (75.0%)

George VI
6 (37.5%)

Elizabeth II
15 (93.8%)

Who, if anyone, have I missed?

Your nationality

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English
14 (87.5%)

Other United Kingdom
2 (12.5%)

Other British Commonwealth
0 (0.0%)

Irish Republic
0 (0.0%)

American
0 (0.0%)

Rest Of World
2 (12.5%)


Music:: Queen - God Save The Queen
There are 9 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
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posted by [personal profile] rochvelleth at 06:57am on 14/05/2009
I found it difficult to set a scale of memorability for myself because I was brought up learning lots about pretty much all monarchs from a very early age - family of history buffs, you see. The ones I didn't choose were probably selected more for me finding them a bit boring and not wanting to know much about them than anything else, I guess. Sorry if I skewed your results!
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posted by [personal profile] lnr at 08:18am on 14/05/2009
OK, I admit it, I'm hopeless at kings and queens.

But dammit "English" isn't my nationality, "British" is my nationality! We're one nation, not several.
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posted by [personal profile] emperor at 09:18am on 14/05/2009
I agree re the nationality.
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posted by [personal profile] ptc24 at 09:34am on 14/05/2009
Today, maybe. Historically, less so. My knowledge of pre-James I and VI Scottish monarchs is rather hazy, and it would be interesting to know what Scottish attitudes are to them and pre-James I and VI English monarchs. Then again, the Welsh situation is rather more similar to the English one than the Scottish one, and I'd be hard pressed to say what the Northern Irish situation is.

Hmmm, maybe I should have just separated out those four, rather than lumping all non-English British together... After all, I did treat Irish and American as interesting special cases.
 
posted by (anonymous) at 09:38am on 14/05/2009
My dad's Northern Irish, of Scottish extraction. My mum's mostly English, with Welsh ancestors too. You could call me English because I was born and have lived here all my life, and have one parent for whom the same is true, but that doesn't in the *least* help historically, does it?
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posted by [personal profile] lnr at 09:38am on 14/05/2009
Drat, wrong browser, didn't mean to comment anonymously. That was me :)
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posted by [personal profile] naath at 09:51am on 14/05/2009
I decided that the Poem For Remembering Monarchs didn't count (it has brief anecdotes for some). I suspect some of my "Things I Remember" are from 1066 And All That and thus possible Wrong (but I couldn't remember who it was with the Surfeit Of Lampreys).
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posted by [personal profile] sigisgrim at 12:22pm on 14/05/2009
I'd be interested in knowing what everybody found memorable about each monarch. Richard III, for example, is easy, but William IV?
 
posted by [personal profile] mobbsy at 02:16pm on 14/05/2009
The excellent King William IV pub in Heydon.

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