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posted by [personal profile] ptc24 at 01:46pm on 26/10/2009
...but how does it make you feel?

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Light mornings! Yay!
4 (44.4%)

Dark evenings! Boo!
5 (55.6%)

I'm not in that timezone
0 (0.0%)

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posted by [personal profile] simont at 04:12pm on 26/10/2009
I'm generally in favour of keeping sunrise within reasonable limits at the expense of sunset fluctuating somewhat, so BST/GMT is fairly close to how I'd like it.

I have in the past suggested, in a ha-ha-only-serious sort of way, that if you're going to decouple the civil consensus time-of-day from the rigid clock used for actually needing to know exact durations, then I'd almost prefer to do it by gradual continuous variation throughout the whole year in place of two big bangs, but I recognise that unless every clock in the country were replaced by something extremely high-tech it would be utterly infeasible.

Mostly what I like about the October clock change is that I don't get dazzled on the way home from work any more. The single most inconvenient time to have sunset is the time that puts the sun at eye level during the going-home period of the day; I don't mind whether the sun sets before or after then, as long as it doesn't do it during. It tends to be "during" for most of late October, until the clocks change at which point it jumps to the much preferable "before".
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posted by [personal profile] ptc24 at 05:11pm on 26/10/2009
Hmm, I looked up time systems on Wikipedia (the Hour page has it), based on a mis-remembering that your fixed-sunrise was what the Romans did. In fact the Romans did fixed-sunrise fixed-sunset variable-hour-length, and there seem to be some variable-sunrise fixed-sunset systems, but no evidence of fixed-sunrise floating-sunset. Which is a shame, as I approve of the idea.
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posted by [personal profile] simont at 05:14pm on 26/10/2009
I'm not actually sure I'd go as far as fixing sunrise completely – at this latitude, that would push daylight another two hours into the evening at summer solstice, and that might be going too far (e.g. for people who definitely wanted it to be dark by the time they were trying to get to sleep). I'd guess that a sensible compromise would be to have sunrise still oscillate back and forth but with less than its natural amplitude: perhaps an hour less from peak to trough as we currently kludge, perhaps move up to 1.5 or 2 hours, but probably not flattening it out completely.
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posted by [personal profile] rochvelleth at 05:16pm on 26/10/2009
I was going to say 'Dark evenings! Yay!' so went for 'Light mornings! Yay!' in a spirit of yayness :)
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posted by [personal profile] naath at 11:08am on 27/10/2009
In winter I think it makes sense to try to put the restricted amount of daylight that is available at the most convenient part of people's work-day for as many people as possible. If I were EPDFL I'd do this by saying that the clocks should be set to the actual time-zone (that is, GMT) and mandating that things that take place at state-determined fixed times (eg schools) happen at useful hours for daylight. This is pretty much the situation at the moment I think.

I've never been convinced of the arguments for BST. After all, having optimised for the daylight availability in winter we get *more* daylight in summer! So all the parts of the day that had daylight in winter still have daylight, and bonus extra daylight exists at both ends of the day.
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posted by [personal profile] ptc24 at 11:24am on 27/10/2009
I think the rationale for BST is that extra daylight in the morning (at least in the light half of the year) is not a bonus as nearly everyone is asleep then, whereas extra daylight in the evening is a bonus as it is not common for adults to go to bed before sunset (at least at Cambridge latitudes) even at the summer solstice.
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posted by [personal profile] naath at 11:28am on 27/10/2009
Why don't we get up earlier and do more things pre-work in the summer then? Especially those of us who routinely show up at work at 10; surely we could find profitable things to do in the morning (and consequentially go to bed earlier).
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posted by [personal profile] sigisgrim at 01:31pm on 27/10/2009
[x] Couldn't care less.

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